Detailing Madness

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Detailing Madness

Post by N2N » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:28 pm

Well, since I posted that I was back in the detailing business, I've been getting plenty of IMs asking me how to do this or that. Therefore, I'mstarting this thread so you can ask me questions, and I can share theanswers publically.

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Re: Detailing Madness (R32_Jon)

Post by N2N » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:40 pm

Please review the following glossary of terms to better follow the thread:Product Glossary:Cleaner - non-abrasive liquid compound used to remove chemical imperfections in paintCut Cleaner - abrasive liquid compound used to remove physical imperfections in paintSwirl/Scratch Remover (SMR) - a very mild Cut Cleaner used to remove minor swirls and scratches, but marketed for the general consumerGlaze - an extremely mild Cut Cleaner used to remove micro swirls and scratches, also contains essential oils, providing shinePolish - liquid compound with essential oils found in paint, a "pure polish" does not contain *any* abrasives, deepens paint colorPolymer Sealant - man-made final coat product, used after all prep work has been performed (NXT, Nu-Finish, Meguairs Nos. 20 and 21)Wax - natural final coat product, almost always carnuba wax, used after all prep work has been performed (P21s, Meguairs No. 26)

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Re: Detailing Madness (R32_Jon)

Post by gti337racer » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:19 am

thanks this is a great idea. what order should these products be used in?

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Post by gti337racer » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:19 am

do you know what the product is that makes the headlight housings clear again if they get cloudy?

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Re: Detailing Madness (R32_Jon)

Post by elicitvr6 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:32 pm

I think you should demonstrate on my car so we can all get a step by step.

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Re: Detailing Madness (elicitvr6)

Post by moliver » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:59 am

elicitvr6 wrote:I think you should demonstrate on my car so we can all get a step by step.
Does it have paint on it?

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Re: Detailing Madness (moliver)

Post by elicitvr6 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:44 am

YUP!

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Post by N2N » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:58 pm

gti337racer wrote:thanks this is a great idea. what order should these products be used in?
it all depends on the condition of the paint.the first step (after washing, of course ) is to clay the carthe second step is usually a cleaner or scratch remover, dependingon whether or not any chemicals have gotten to the clear or if itsjust swirly. there are plenty of products that do both steps in oneshot, my personal favorite being ColorX by Meguair's. ColorX is a product that is almost an all-in-one. It is a cleaner thatremoves oxidation, has a ton of essential oils like a glaze, and leaves a light polymer sealant behind to boot. For most newer cars, this is all that's needed. Top ColorX off with your favorite sealant or wax, and you're prettymuch done for 99% of the time. If you have stains or other, moredifficult paint problems, other products will be needed.Now, if you're more comfortable using specialized products, and have the time... my answer depends on what the paint condition is afterclaying.Most likely, you'll spend time using Swirl Mark Remover to reduce theappearance of fine scratches (stuff you can't feel with a fingernail).After the SMR, you'll either choose to glaze or go straight to polish.Glazing fills in those superfine scratches that reduce the appearanceof gloss. After glazing, you can use polish to add depth, or go straightto a sealant or wax. It really depends on how much work the paint needs.Some sealants and waxes contain cleaners, which would negate yourglazing/polishing work, so be careful of what product you choose.It takes a bit of experimentation to get the process right. After a bitof trial and error, you'll start figuring out what the paint needs just bylooking at it and feeling it after it's washed. Even if your process isn'tperfect, it's still going to look a lot better than when you started. Modified by R32_Jon at 10:18 PM 7/28/2005

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Re: Detailing Madness (gti337racer)

Post by N2N » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:00 pm

gti337racer wrote:do you know what the product is that makes the headlight housings clear again if they get cloudy?
I use either Meguiar's Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish:http://meguiars.com/estore/pro...34101h ... ...34101or No. 7 Swirl Mark Remover with a foam polishing ball attachment on a drill

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Post by N2N » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:02 pm

elicitvr6 wrote:I think you should demonstrate on my car so we can all get a step by step.
You take the pics, and I give you half price mista.

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Re: Detailing Madness (R32_Jon)

Post by N2N » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:10 pm

A few words about compounds/compounding:Simply, stay away from compounds if you're a novice.I have ten years of experience under my belt, and I refuse to use compounds unless it is an aboslute lastresort.If you do not own a rotary buffer, or are unfamiliar withusing one, just don't do it. About 95% of the time, using a cut cleaner will do the samejob with less possibility of disaster. Always begin with the least aggressive product, and work your way up. Sometimes,two applications of a mild product will be less work than oneof an aggressive product. All cut cleaners, including Fine Cut,should only be used on a heavily oxidized, swirled car. Irarely need to use them, as Swirl Mark Removers work formost every situation.If you have something that you think is BAD, email me a picture,or drop by the house and let me take a look. Often, as enthusiasts,it looks alot worse than it really is.

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Re: Detailing Madness (R32_Jon)

Post by elicitvr6 » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:57 pm

R32_Jon wrote:You take the pics, and I give you half price mista.
Works for me. Now just let me get the car back from the body shop and we'll be good to go. I want to get the bay steamed too. Git 'er nice and purty for Treffen and H2O

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Post by N2N » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:36 pm

i'll refer you to someone to get the steaming done, but i'll be in touch

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Re: Detailing Madness

Post by SonjatheJetta » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:58 am

Question-- my car had body work done in July. The rocker panels were extremely rusted; the shop that did the work not only covered them with POR-15 but also the type of material you'd find in truck beds. (Car is black, material is black). Anyway, after the work was done they buffed the car.

They left residual wax and swirls...I've been able to remove most of this so far (give it another detailing session for me to get the rest). But there's a lot of wax on one section of the rocker panel that I'm having a hard time removing due to the lumpy texture of the truck bed material. How can I do this?

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Post by bronson75 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:19 pm

gti337racer wrote:do you know what the product is that makes the headlight housings clear again if they get cloudy?
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