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New Audi's and Valentine 1's

Post by g60_corrado_91 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:50 pm

I already talked to Karl and Jake on this subject. Sort of sucks, but I still love my V1.

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Post by Dubmekanik » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:22 am

We'll see how much you love it when you get hit with lidar..haha
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Post by g60_corrado_91 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:58 am

I have before in Algonquin. It actually saved my ass. Granted that won't happen everytime, but I got lucky.
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Post by Dubmekanik » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:49 am

valentines don't pick up lidar...I have two speeding tickets last month to prove it
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Post by g60_corrado_91 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:10 pm

By lidar you mean laser? Well, they do pick it up (just go by the iPass and it screams at you, or the random Infiniti/Lexus's), but obviously lidar is hard to pick up because the beam is so tiny. That's why a laser jammer combined with a good RD is a good combo. The problem is that laser jammers are illegal in my states I believe.
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Post by KO-R32 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:31 pm

How do these systems not interfere with police radar? I would think they would affect the radar guns ability to do its job and therefore be banned by the FCC. Time for V1 to update their circuitry/logic chips.

Jason's point about Laser is just that its too late once you've been targeted (hence Matt's point about a jammer), but I've had lot of luck detecting Laser being directed upon the guy in front of me, which give me time to check my speed, etc. Its always smart to be only the second fastest car out there.
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Post by g60_corrado_91 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:20 pm

KO-R32 wrote:How do these systems not interfere with police radar? I would think they would affect the radar guns ability to do its job and therefore be banned by the FCC. Time for V1 to update their circuitry/logic chips.

Jason's point about Laser is just that its too late once you've been targeted (hence Matt's point about a jammer), but I've had lot of luck detecting Laser being directed upon the guy in front of me, which give me time to check my speed, etc. Its always smart to be only the second fastest car out there.
I agree. I mean the laser going off is bad enough, but I think the Audi and K band is 10x more annoying. Yeah, I agree that laser is very tricky to detect, but most if not all RD's have laser detection built into them, even Cobra's. And yeah, it's always smart to have a "rabbit" i.e. faster car out in front of you so they get busted while you have time to react.
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Post by Dubbin'0n15s » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:38 am

g60_corrado_91 wrote:By lidar you mean laser? Well, they do pick it up (just go by the iPass and it screams at you, or the random Infiniti/Lexus's), but obviously lidar is hard to pick up because the beam is so tiny. That's why a laser jammer combined with a good RD is a good combo. The problem is that laser jammers are illegal in my states I believe.
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Post by Dubmekanik » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:17 pm

Thank you, D...When Jason says Lidar he means Lidar..And valentines do not pick it up. 3 months ago when I got my first ticket from a trooper with it, I had a hard time even finding info about it on google, etc.
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Post by KO-R32 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:53 pm

Dubmekanik wrote:When Jason says Lidar he means Lidar..
Well the "L" in LIDAR stands for Laser (light), they are one in the same: http://www.escortradar.com/6800-manual. ... aser_works" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I cannot explain your ticket or why your detector seems to have failed you (is your V1 thin or thick (see link below for discussion of this as it relates to the V1)?)

Car & Driver says:
"Lidar is another, especially fearsome speed-enforcement tool. A lidar gun works by firing a series of laser light pulses (with a wavelength of 904 nanometers) at a targeted vehicle. The device times the return of the reflected pulses and uses that number to compute the vehicle's speed. The lidar gun sends a narrow beam at its target; even at a distance of 1000 feet, the most intense portion of it is only six feet wide-narrow enough to pick a single car out of a crowd."

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Post by g60_corrado_91 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:39 pm

Well, I thought LIDAR was laser, and according to Escort, it is. Either way, I know for a fact my V1 does pick up LIDAR/laser. Like I said, I agree with you that it is last second compared to radar signals, but if your V1 wasn't picking it up at all, then either the cop was very good at aiming it as far away from the V1 where the signal couldn't bounce, your V1 doesn't have it, or it's not working properly.

I just posted this thread to be informative about the K band falses with new Audi's.
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Re: New Audi's and Valentine 1's

Post by Dubmekanik » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:17 am

KO-R32 wrote:
Dubmekanik wrote:When Jason says Lidar he means Lidar..
Well the "L" in LIDAR stands for Laser (light), they are one in the same
On my ticket there were three boxes that could be checked as far as the speed measuring device..One was Lidar, the next was laser, and I forget what the third one was. Police enforcement considers them different. I will scan the ticket, because I'm sure someone will argue this fact...geez

Lidar and laser are not the same when referring to them as speed measuring devices at least according to the people that are issuing the tickets...
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Post by KO-R32 » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:35 am

Dubmekanik wrote:
Lidar and laser are not the same when referring to them as speed measuring devices at least according to the people that are issuing the tickets...
Oh I see what you're saying. I think the old generation I & II police laser guns (e.g. Marksman, Prolaser) are considered "Laser" whereas the newer Gen 3 police lasers (e.g. Pro Laser III, Stalker) are considered LIDAR. Both use the same basic principle of light (Time of Flight) but for some reason your citation(s) allows for making the distinction.
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